Every Pirates Greatest Dream….

Every Pirates Greatest Dream…. …A Sunken Chest.
(Keira Knightley)
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Every Pirates Greatest Dream…. …A Sunken Chest.
(Keira Knightley)
Picture by: dunno source Caption by: catncaboodle via Our LOL Builder
Omg where did they go?!?!?
she left them in her other dress.
Thats it, it donating everything I own to a research organization who combats anorexia or bulimia or whatever caused such a atrocity.
Great caption though.
She needs boobs NOW!
Not to play the role of the butt-hurt feminist or anything… but really. Re-read your post, and again, and again, until you get the vain stupidity of what you have said and then smack yourself on the head with a sledgehammer to to smash some sense into yourself.
Why the flying f*ck should she need breasts? Not every woman needs a DD pair of tits to look attractive. Or are you one of those people who only jerk off at the Lola Ferrari-type of bimbos and consider women with less than that as unsexy?
Look, I admit that she does look thin in here. But her choice of dress is to blame here, not her eating pattern. Let’s get one thing straight because it annoys the flying sh!t out of me that some people immediately begin to scream blue murder when they see a thin person; “ANOREXIA! ZOMFG FORCE-FEED THAT THING.”
Not every thin person has anorexia, people. Let it get through your thick skulls this time.
AGREE!!
Kiera is beautiful and no woman should be criticised for their breast size EVER!
IT’S UNACCEPTABLE.
Yet women make fun of guys with small dicks. Please shove your double standard where the sun don’t shine.
Just as there are men who don’t solely go for the beachball-look, there are women who don’t mind pencil dicks. Or at least don’t make fun of it. So please shove your overgeneralization where the sun doesn’t shine.
Women aren’t posting ‘hilarious’ captions of ‘he left his dick in his other suit’ though, are we?
you are sutpid of course all girls need triple Ds! Can i get an Amen??
Request denied.
Basically this is how it works for all you women out there that apparently have no f**king clue how guys work.
Keira Knightly + no boobies = Awesome
Keira Knightly + big boobies = Turbo Awesome
She is a great looking woman and has a very beautiful face.
Still, she looks strange on this picture. A woman does not need big breasts to look great, but a woman should wear the right clothes. And on this photo she wears a dress which requires some larger breasts than she has, because she has almost no breasts. And it just looks awkward with such a dress.
Oh yes, it’s all about the boobs, eh. Doesn’t matter if she has an IQ that equals her own shoe size, a pair of watermelons up front is all that matters.
Look man, I get that most of the guys find a pair of nice titties attractive. I’m a girl myself but I understand that well enough. I’m just saying that a woman who doesn’t have that much up front, shouldn’t be criticized for that.
“Triple D”?
And you call me stupid? Pfffft. Go back to pre-school and get some sex-ed, man. While you’re at it, acquiring some spelling skills would be nice too. You’d do us all a huge favor.
Thank you! Keira is naturally thin – her mum said so! Anyhow, I am happy that you are defending the not very busty types out there such as myself. I wholly agree with your post. <3 many many thanks!
THANK YOU!!!!! Also, I love how people jump all over those who call someone fat, but EVERYONE gets to poke fun at a thin person.
That’s disgusting Paz, look at her face and you can tell she’s a gorgeous young woman, she is also confident with herself and doesn’t need the secrurity boobs bring to overweight women
So only overweight women have boobs?
Oh fuck off, I’m 5′8″ 137lbs and have Es. You don’t need to be overweight to have tits, nor do you need to be skinny to have none. If you hadn’t claimed otherwise I would have agreed with you, considering I too think Keira is beautiful and doesn’t need huge knockers to improve herself. But you went ahead and over-generalised…seriously? The only women you’ve ever met that have boobs were overweight? Yeah right. Maybe get out once in a while.
FTLOG eat something lady
Haha. I love the english language. In german you could never do such a funny pun.
Actually you can kind of. I remember the story I heard of an American soldier at a base in Germany who was on Gate Guard for the first time, and being instructed in what to say by the Guard Commander (the Sergeant) “Halt oder ich schiessen” – “Halt or I shoot”. So off he goes and then someone approaches so off he goes saying what he was told only to find that the person he told it to collapsed to the floor laughing his head off. It was only when the Sergeant told him what happened that he realised what he said. He had actually said “Halt oder ich scheissen” – “Halt or I shit”
Now who says the Germans don’t have a sense of humour.
sexiest women alive anyway (to me).
hehehe, thats awesome
That makes absolutely no sense. You scewed up all the German. Sorry.
Yeah. There are words that look like one another in every language, I guess. But ‘chest’ actually has two completely different meanings. The part of the body (german: Brust) and a kind of a box (german: Kiste or Truhe). I remember a whole bunch of words like that in our english book, for example ‘race’.
I can’t think of any german words that are actually two different words with different meanings in english.
Maybe not *this* pun, but tons of others. It’s not the language but the creativity of the one who uses it.
Great caption by the way indeed, and IMO there’s no uglier thing than a woman who starves herself to the verge of death for some sort of “beauty ideal”.
In my theory men who like to date anorexics only do so because they think they don’t have to dine her before doing her.
If you come across german puns similar to this one, please respond to this post. Right now I can only think of some crappy ‘Kalauer’-Jokes á la Willi Astor. Not that funny…
Absofockinglutelywonderful!
its a skeleton !!!!
I’d totally do her. And most of you guys would too, even if you’d never admit it in public.
(Flame away. I’m wearing my asbestos suit.)
Some of us girls would do her.
Hell, I’d do a guy to do her.
I would totally do her, she is exceptionally beautiful.
But she should really avoid outfits that accentuate her complete lack of titties.
She’s very beautiful and rather intelligent and even seems like she has a snarky sense of humor and so forth. But fashion sense? Not much apparently.
Um no. I have a strict non-necrophilia clause in my contract.
As a straight girl, even I would consider doing her. But, not if she is wearing that dress. It really does look bad on her.
*sigh* Yes, she happens to be bereft in mounds of fat. Can we move on with it?
Hey, at least she’s not gone the plastic surgery route, right?
I agree completely.
(sarcasm)
Ah, surely you jest… who wouldn’t prefer a bug-eyed woman whose lips and breasts are so unnaturally swollen you’d be afraid of popping them like a zit? Give me one of those any day over a woman with a taut body, perky breasts, and naughty little eyes that you could melt into.
(/sarcasm)
True, fair do’s, mate.
best i’ve seen.
Would someone hurry up and force feed that thing a sandwich or something. Before the next rainstorm washes her down a drain or a breeze snaps her like a twig. This is just painfully scary.
She doesnt look unhealthy, she just seems naturaly skinny. Everyone’s body is different and i wish people would respect that.
its really just fat ugly people hating on everyone. if a woman looks too good, shes a plastic slut, if shes too thin, she needs to eat. anything that helps a hambeast sleep at night. god knows they wont post pictures of their own after they comment on the celebs.
This woman is so thin her breasts are GONE. She used to have breasts – have you seen her in past films? – and she starved herself to the point that she has no longer has breasts. How effed-up does one have to be to think this is at all normal or looks good? Jesus Christ, what is wrong with the people around her? She obviously needs a doctor. If anyone in my family or a friend started to look like that I’d think they had cancer. And what is wrong with you people? How sick do you have to be to want to get it on with someone who doesn’t even look as healthy as the patients at the chemotherapy clinic? Sick doesn’t even begin to cover this crap.
Summary:
Thin = good
Starvation = not good
She NEVER had boobs as far as I can tell. In all her films they were digitally enhanced or she was in serious fits of discomfort from the bras made to force the poor things upwards to create cleavage while padding filled in the rest. She’s just naturally flat chested and she looks absolutely gorgeous for it. What’s more, she’s a positive role model for young woman that may be considering the surgical route.
She stays this thin, then gets a contract for a picture and puts on 30 pounds, and loses it after the filming is over. It’s somewhat bizarre really, but since when was Hollywood anything else?
Agreed. she did have boobs some time ago. now she is too skinny and is losing her pretty.
Wow, you sure seem bitter. Did a fat girl turn you down to the prom in high school so you had to take a cousin? Or was the cousin your first choice anyway? Ass.
Ha ha! ’s true! They cannot schaden their freude properly. LOL @ “hambeast”
My word she is stunning. I like small breasts so that makes her more beautiful in my eyes.
She needs breasts to have small breasts.
Seriously… maybe it’s just the angle of the picture of something, but *she has no tits*
This post makes no sense to me whatsoever.
I like little boobs too but this is a severely stupid fashion choice for a woman who wears an AA cup.
She’s still cute, I’d hit it.
i already titled a roflrazzi of her this way. i guess it was not funny enough at the time.
I think that she looks really elegant..
I don’t have a problem with the small breasts, but the so skinny her bones poke through her skin thing is a turn off.
Love her but she really needs a stylist.
Girls, this is NOT Sexy!!
True. At least a semblance of boobies is needed for sexy.
Indeed, anm the boys don´t like to hump bones. geeze girls get some curves
Geeze, guys, get some neurons.
It’s got nothing to do with Boobies. It’s being borderline anorexic. The boobies are a by product of that
Yes it does. Boobies are fun. No one cares who much she eats or exercises.
FAIL! Dude, Anorexia is a serious Problem. Young Girls must not think this is a good Thing because of Hollywood.
lol! Cancer is a serious problem, heart disease is a serious problem, anorexia is a joke. The cure for anorexia? Good parents.
Not so funny when you see somebody dying from it, eh?
LMAO, I’ll save my tears for people with real problems, not self-inflicted ones.
This is more complicated like this… but anyway… i´m here fpr some fun and not to fight.
That ET neck and little boy chest freaks me out. NOT attractive!
What’s keeping the dress on?
A hell of a lotta tape.
It’s not the small breasts that’s the problem so much as this particular dress style looks better on a woman with a larger chest size. If she were wearing a dress that complimented her size/shape rather than point out all the things that may be wrong she’d look much better/healthier.
In addition to her small chest, she also has a small waist and slightly flaring hips – both are considered very attractive, but instead of wearing something snug around the bottom she has a dress that’s flared out down there so you can’t see how nice that part looks.
She needs better dress advice.
There are women who cannot gain weight no matter what they eat – my sister is one. She eats like a piggy (worse than I do) and stays around 100Lbs. Whereas I *think* about eating a celery stick and gain 10 lbs for my thinking efforts, LOL! Keira Knightly’s skin doesn’t look unhealthy (like she’s not eating) and her shape isn’t all that different from my sister’s – who eats plenty. I do wish people would stop seeing a person who is skinny and thrust food at them. It’s got to be about as annoying as skinny people who offer me a slim fast.
thank you Gok Wan
LOL!
Intelligent, thoughtful, and to the point.
What’s a nice post like you doing in a place like this? (^_~)
Must’ve gotten lost, taking a wrong turn on the interwebs 0:
Did I make a wrong turn and landed up on LOLFashion??
WTF Vila, this is the last place I ever expected to find you.
Shoulda turned left at Albuquerque?
I love you (platonically speaking of course) for posting this. It annoys the living hell out of me that some people seem to think that being skinny equals throwing up every meal you eat.
I can’t tell if she’s unhealthy or not from this picture, though her hair seems to be pointing towards it.
I have nothing against petite women, there are body shapes run a spectrum. However women need to have higher body fat percentage than men to be healthy, and with the exception of “brown fat” and pulmonary lining, the breasts are the last fat deposit to go on a woman.
That’s why women ‘can’t get’ man-like defined abs, they’re not supposed to. If a woman does have a six-pack chances are her period is off and something’s ‘wrong.’ I’m sure it’s certainly possible to be healthy and have it, but it’s not normal healthy. (Besides, that little curve right under the belly button is so cute!)
I agree with the above posters: the dress is horrible. It doesn’t just make her look really flat, it gives the impression that her breasts are much lower than they are and pointing downwards. It does nothing for her neck either. Blek
Meh, so what, she’s skinny. Big deal.
She is just to thin.
Funny, the one person who DOESN’T have fake boobs in Hollywood gets flak for it. Assholes. She’s more beautiful and talented than any of you could ever hope to be. Leave her alone. Just because she isn’t fat and doesn’t have DD boobs, doesn’t mean she’s unhealthy.
Sorry to be picky, but that should be “the one woman.” The overwhelming majority of the men don’t HAVE fake boobs, they ARE fake boobs.
I’ll give you that she’s beautiful, but talented? Come on!
That’s what I was thinking. I’ve seen most of her films, she’s worked with a lot of actors I love, and she sets my teeth on edge. I can’t stand her.
No rly, a pile of bones is not pretty. i don´t talk about the boobs. she is just..just… all bones! ^^
Jealous?
not at all^^
Funny, the one person who DOESN’T have ANY boobs in Hollywood…
Fixed it for ya there.
The problem isn’t that she doesn’t have DD boobs. The problem is that she made a TERRIBLE choice when she put on that dress.
She is a stunningly beautiful woman. She would look better in almost any other outfit. Like maybe a potato sack or a trash bag.
Seriously, that is a really awful dress for her to wear.
tacky
Yup, thats what hold her dress up.
Ok, i give in… how the hell is her dress staying on??
this is not, in the slightest bit attractive IMO
A hella lotta tittie tape!
WIN!!!!
they hold their dress up with tape lol.
Someone needs a sammich.
Yay! Another poster girl for anorexia! Get a hint folks, the starving Ethiopian look is never attractive. That swollen melon on a straw neck just makes one wonder when she’s going to snap.
On the commentary a second comment could be made for Every pirate’s dream……….. A cabin boy in drag……..
Put me on the list of those who think this just wasn’t the dress for her.
She never had HUEG boobs and doesn’t need them. Stupid American view that all women should have giant cantaloupes strapped to their chests…
So it’s a European fashion statement to look like a starving refugee? It’s sexy to have an E.T. head and neck?
how’s it okay to make fun of a woman with small breasts, but not okay to make fun of someone that’s fat?
When I was a lot younger and had the metabolism from hell, I could eat like a horse… and still had trouble keeping shorts from falling off. No matter what I did, I stayed rail-thin, and people would constantly joke about it, threaten to force-feed me, or tell me to “Eat something!” It got really old, really quick. I’m told the lovely Ms. Knightley has repeatedly said the same thing to no avail – people still keep insisting on making the same stupid jokes.
Nothing says “funny” like insinuating someone has a disease that kills thousands of young girls and mocking them for it, right? If she really were anorexic, that kind of treatment would only make things worse. Look at how much faster the real anorexics go downhill once people start making stupid jokes.
The problem is she didn’t look like this before. Yes, she’s always been skinny, but not THIS skinny. And she’s lying to everyone and herself by saying she’s always looked like this, when we have proof from previous movies that she didn’t.
From past experience: Turn a moderately well-muscled leg (from cycling) one way while relaxed, and a picture will make it look like you have terminal thunderthighs. Turn the exact same leg another way and contract the muscles, and you’ll be called “chickenlegs.”
Perspective can matter, a LOT. Severely unflattering photos from paparazzi who want something dramatic to report don’t mean jack.
There’s only two ways to know for sure – with a scale and a professional BMI reading, or to be her lover and be extremely familiar with her entire body in both the relaxed and active states, from a variety of perspectives. I volunteer myself to be the one to find out via method #2. (^_^)
Dude. you call movies ‘proof’? That’s like saying that “Tome Cruise isn’t actually that short, because look at his movies!”
Ever heard of digital rectification, yes?
Actually, it’s usually a lot cheaper and easier to play tricks with perspective. Try to give him one-shots as much as possible; avoid group shots like the plague. When two-or-more-shots are necessary, give him platform shoes, put him closer to the camera than the other actors, and raise the ground he’s standing on. Also, dress him in clothing that minimizes how noticeable his waist is and try to avoid whole-body shots, because showing his tiny little legs makes it harder to believe that he’s as tall as the person he’s next to.
Tricking perspective is probably also what the guy who snapped this photo intended to do. From slightly underneath and to the side at a slight angle while she’s wearing the most unflattering dress she could have possibly found, her thinness becomes “ZOMG ANNOREKSIA!”
Extremely oddball question out of curiosity… I wonder who weighs more? I know that the official answer is that Cruise is also 5′7″, but I’m skeptical. And a well-toned thin person can weigh MORE than a flabby “larger” person, even if they really are the same height, ’cause muscle is denser than fat.
Ahh, you’re absolutely right. But I was more like “Dude, you call movies proof” and with all the “Tis-iz-photoshopped!!1one!” comments… Well, you catch my drift, eh? But you’re right, perspective does matter. In combination with the abominable choice of clothing… Well, I said it somewhere a bit more up, in a rant to some dude who apparently finds it neccessary that every woman has boobs (because yeah, you cannot really be considered female without them, fo’ sho.), this pic is just another reason for people to yell “IT’S ANOREXIA PEOPLE, FEED HER SHE’S STARVING”. God, I’m getting more and more irritated with that thick-headedness.
…And why did I spell “Tome”? o__O
But that’s a funny question you asked there. Now I’m curious as well. Well, let Keira hump Oprah’s couch and we’ll see what happens, right?
I can relate to what you just said. I was a skinny little thing at one time,just naturally slim. A relative,who was FAT and insecure,told me I looked sick all the time. She made fun of my small chest all the time and it made me really insecure as a woman. I started binge eating just so I would get heavy enough to fill a bra. I became obese and had some really shitty boyfriends as a result. When I got sick for real,I ended up losing all that and I am now back to the skinny,breastless girl I used to be. I don’t speak to that particular family member anymore. Be careful what you say to skinny people!
You guys. This has nothing to do with making fun of girls with no chests.
She looks anorexic. I don’t know if she is–it could be the dress–but she looks it. And lets face it, it’s not uncommon in the hollywood world.
she’s beautiful. so she’s underweight – 2/3 of america is overweight. she doesn’t have any more health problems than the average american, probably less. anyway, as long as she IS healthy – and unless any of you happen to have been her doctor, you have no qualifications to deny that – then why harp on it?
i agree with those who say it just wasn’t her best dress. good color on her, but not a very flattering shape.
BEST. CAPTION. EVER.
Oh and best comment do far goes to loltapeworm. Simple but effective win.
Dear lord is she skinny or what. I agree with most of everyone’s comments so far but if a) she’s not got an eating disorder b) is happy with the way she looks, then I say leave her to it. She knows she’s not (and most likely never will be) a shapely girl, and she’s okay with it. (or so I’ve heard. Go with me on this.)
Body confidence, no matter what you look like: ultimate win, yes?
Ultimate win, no. To allow yourself to sink deeper and deeper is never good. She might not be anorexic at the moment but she is not far from it. When her body is no longer in proportion with her head something is wrong. That is the look of someone in the begining stages of malnutrition and starvation.
It’s an unflattering dress while standing in an unflattering pose and wearing a really unflattering hairstyle. I’d be more impressed by the “OMG She’s GONNA DIE FROM ANOREXIA” comments if this were a casual shot taken while she was walking to the store wearing jeans, a t-shirt, and a pony tail. Not while wearing a poofy dress with poofy hair and a LOW neckline on a body that just doesn’t need it. Or a bikini shot – that would show more as well and maybe make some of the guys happy
Hating on people because of their body weight is so 2004.
Dear Miss Knightley,
WTF were you THINKING?? We all know you’re of above-average intelligence. And that you’re okay with being slim. But really, this is a crime against your gender for the love of Christ.
Screw christ
Meh, he’d be hotter if he washed his beard…
Ugh I’m sorry I know this is all in good fun and everything but fuck this pisses me off – So she’s thin. So she’s not a DD. So who gives a shit?! Good on her for being confident enough to wear what she wants without caring about everyones dumbass comments about her small breasts. I think she’s beautiful…
Remind me to get you the Miss Anorexia and Miss Ethiopia refugee calenders then.
Keep your stupid ’sarcastic’ comments to yourself – because I think it’s out of line to make jokes about starved refugees and compare someone’s body type with their malnutritioned bodies.
I didn’t mean it like that. I meant it’s good to be comfortable in yourself no matter what you look like. There’s a limit, of course, but eating disorders are not just physical problems. They affect the mentality of the person, obviously, or they’d never get that way.
And if she’s not the edge of anorexia? If she eats as normally as anyone else ? She may just be built that way.
Exactly.. my body shape’s like that naturally. Granted I have slightly bigger boobs, but some girls [including me] just can’t help being skinny, the way some girls can’t help being fat.
The REAL problem is she USED to have boobs until she lost twenty plus poinds because that is expected in hollywood. Seriously, go watch the forst pirates and then look at this picture again. I have NO boobs, and have no problems with small chests, but this girl NEEDS to E-A-T
Um actually if you watch the commentaries you would know she used inserts in the first movie, they fell out a couple times, they didn’t use them as much in the latter ones, mainly because she wasn’t ever dressed up to look nice. There’s a clip from the first one when she falls into the water and she loses her inserts, and she’s just as flat as she is in this picture. Thank you. Very much.
she is not just thin, she is skeletal. To all you people going on about how you or someone you know can eat and eat and stay this thin, I want to know if you are really that healthy. For example, (assuming female) is your menstrual cycle normal? Many models who starve themselves stop menstruating. This is not healthy or normal and people who maintain they are fine and “can’t help it” but have signs of malnutrition such as this, need to get help. Either psychologically, if you think this is ok, or physically, because if it’s affecting you like that in spite of you trying to gain weight, you should really find out why because that’s not normal.
And why do you all assume that people who say this is too skinny are in favor of massive implants or are fat? What a stupid thing to say! There is a vast spread of options between the two. There are celebrities (Debra Messing for one) who isn’t very big chested, no implants, but is not skinny like this sunken-cheeked zombie, and I say good for her! Spare me the ginormous implants, but for goodness’ sake at least take care of yourself!
And IMHO, regardless of how she looks, I don’t see what is so special about her personality or her acting either one. People who whine about how hard it is to be pretty irritate me.
I can’t wait for the day when people look at something else other than boobs as an attractive feature.
“Hey guys! How do you make a lump of fat sexy? PUT A NIPPLE ON IT HURRRRRR!”
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! It’s SO true!!
A beautiful woman is one who loves herself just the way she is.
I still think Keira Knightley is a gorgeous woman, and that for more than just her breasts. Yes, she is skinny, but as said before, it might very well be the unflattering angle. She has great bone structure in her face, and actually looks a great deal more intelligent than some other celebs I think everyone can name.
It has to be said though, that rumour has it that the female line of her family has a history of eating disorders, and those can be hereditary.
I think I’ll keep the conclusion to she just has a waifish figure, which explains a lot. Thin, small hips, (usually) not very large breasts.
WTF has this to do with Keira Knightley?
Well, to me, it isn’t that she should have bigger breasts. The creepy thing, is that there are no breasts..period. If there was at least a smallish lump, it would be ok. But in that picture, she has no breasts whatsoever, no matter how hard I looked. It’s like negative breasts or something. Creepy. Perhaps it’s the dress? She’s also slouching-therefore breasts look smaller.
Hmm, thin, plus small breasts, plus slouching. Now I see it!
I am glad there is at least one man here who has a thought that originated above the waist. Do you others ever stop to think this is not just a piece of meat here?…She is a human being with human feelings, and a talented one. Who cares what she’s wearing? I personally don’t like the dress, but what matters is that SHE obviously liked it. Why should anyone go around trying to please others??? I think she is genetically set up to be thin. It is called an “asthenic body habitus.” Her whole frame shows that she is naturally very thin. The lady probably couldn’t gain weight if she tried. What she looks like, how thin she is, what she wears and what her bra size is….do not define WHO SHE IS. Do you ever stop to think about that? Do most of you men out there think the only reason a woman is on the earth is eye candy and some object to “do”? Those of you who do are going to be very miserable people trying to live up to those standards yourselves. There IS a double standard. Men can be old, fat, gray or and bald and that is an acceptable standard— For example, look at the men who report the news! Women end up being “replaced” by a younger, more “attractive” anchorwoman. That’s a microcosm for this whole fleshy prejudice. Women can’t have small breasts, be too thin, too fat, over the age of 30, grey etc. without getting insulted and regarded as undesirable. Barbie is a SOCIAL ILL you people. You men don’t all look like GI Joe either!!! Which among you are flawless? Why do you think you have the right to set the standard for beauty? Get real people! All of you, men or women, who think a person is beautiful or ugly based on their measurements and their desirability defined by the size of their breasts or their male appendage need a cephalanalectomy. For those of you who have atrophied or insufficient gray matter, go look that up.
I’m a female, and I still appreciate boobs. Hush, dear.
I have nothing against her, but really. Stop weaing strapless dresses.
How does it even stay up? Magic? Sheer willpower?
Isnt It a Bit Obvious Her Heads To Big ?
Thats A Bit Of Photoshop If U Ask Me
Can´t you idiots see that she´s sick?
Obviously she has anorexia nervosa, so how dare you criticize her chest!
I´ve also got that disease, so I know how hard it is.
Shut up you jerks!!!