The Republicans said
The Republicans said I’d get health care when Hell froze over
I’m still waiting
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Nope, the Republicans did not say that.
The thing about healthcare is that most people who say they can’t afford it probably could if they reduced their “beer and cigarettes” budget. Honestly, as a diabetic with high blood pressure and cholesterol problems, and my husband, a smoker with a severely damaged back, can get a policy for 125$ a month that would suit us fine. And that’s through a big name, Kaiser! All they have to do to fix the situation for the vast majority of the uninsured is to drop the stupid “you have to buy from the state you live in” malarkey. Trouble is, that means the power-grubbers won’t be able to control it. Playground bullies, I swear!
Oh, and tort reform. Stop the stupid lawsuits.
Yeah. That’s the only problem. Riiiiiiiiiight. Must be nice living in Happy Fun Land.
It’s nice here. We have cookies.
I bet you thought that was a German flag too.
And Einstein was a socialist.
HURRAY FOR UNJUSTIFIED REPUBLICAN BASHING!!! YAY!!!
Absolutely! I have always paid out of pocket for health care and the best that I have figured I have saved money over the years by NOT havng insurance – and that includes paying for the birth of my 6 kids. And I am not rich by any standard – about $35,000/year.
Everybody should have catastrophic insurance, just like you have catastrophic insurance for your car, and should be able to buy it from where ever they like, regardless of state lines. But, like your car insurance, it should not be used for maintenance. Pay your doctor out of pocket for routine exams (normally around $70 or so) and pocket the money you save from not having to pay a large premium. You will save money in the long run. If you can’t afford to pay for a doctor visit, there are plenty of charities and clinics, and there are already government programs in place for the poor. This is about government control, not helping people. And if you believe any differently then you aren’t studying history or paying attention to what the people pushing government health care have been and are saying.
Wow, so you were able to pay $20,000 per child’s birth out of pocket? You must be very good as saving money. Yeah, you save money in the long run if you don’t have to go to the doctor very often. Those of us whose health isn’t nearly that fantastic can’t afford to be without insurance. It’s wonderful that you can manage without it. Don’t act like the rest of us can do that.
STFU and go back to Pundit kitchen and annoy people there !
No. If you think that it costs $20,000 in medical costs per birth then one of three things are true:
1. You have never had a child or paid attention to the costs.
2. You are a government accountant.
3. You are an idiot.
Of course, there is the option that all three are true, but that would be the perfect storm of stupidity and hilarity that would culminate in you not having the cognative skills neccessary to string words together, so that is probably not the case.
Each one of my children cost approximately $2700 in medical bills, including OB/GYN and care and delivery at the hospital. When my wife found out that she was pregnant for the first time we went to the hospital that she was going to give birth at and worked out a package deal. You would be surprised how accomodating they can be and how much your bill will reduce when they know that you are paying for your care out of pocket. They went over our options and worked out a payment plan for us.
My brother’s wife became pregnant about a month after we did. They had excellent insurance through a major provider with an 80/20 copay and $500 deductible – pretty standard where we lived. His monthly premium share through his employer was about $250 a month. His wife and mine went to the same hospital, and gave birth only about a month apart. His wife had a private OB/GYN, and I’m not sure how much that cost them. However, I do know that his total out of pocket for labor, delivery and aftercare was about $2500. Plus the cost of his premiums, which for that time period would add another $2500, bringing his total cost to $5000. Plus whatever his wife’s visits to the OB/GYN cost out of pocket.
If you have never had to take the responsiblity for paying for your own health care, then you probably don’t know how much it actually costs. And you need to grow up and take responsibility for yourself and stop letting someone else take care of you.
Yes, I’m sure it’s a great policy…
That is, until you desperately need it!
That’s the problem with surveys showing how many people are “satisfied” with their health care policies. Most people are never in the situation of desperately needing them, i.e., of needing to take out significantly more than they put in, at which point many health care insurers say, oops, it looks like you’re no longer covered!
Yeah, the Republicans just said “never.”
You know what makes having constructive dialogue impossible? Ridiculous, untenable, polarizing comments. Good work.
And that applies to the (not in the least way funny) caption on the picture above.
Democrats eat puppies and rape kittens! <– Yes, that comment was just as much a true and helpful contribution to the discussion as yours.
I hope the eating and rape part isn’t in THAT order. O_O
That’s so funny that it’s not remotely funny.
At all.
I think he’s still waiting for Obama to actually fix the economy instead of driving it into the ground. Remember how he swore that unemployment wouldn’t go above 8%?
I guess the Bush recession got worse than anyone anticipated. Good thing Obama did all those things to keep us out of a major depression then.
Yeah, the man has been in office for less than a year, but the recession that’s been around for the last few years is suddenly HIS fault?! Some people are seriously retarded.
Don’t insult the developmentally challenged by comparing them to this lot here!
Besides, I would be more apt to call them “memory challenged” at this point. How soon they forget that the Repubs got us into this mess in the first place, now they’re mad because the Dems haven’t gotten them out yet! Sheesh! “Hurry up and get it fixed by 2012 so we can get back in power and mess it up again!”
Don’t forget, Ivan, they only mess it up for middle class and poor people. The rich always seem to find a way to profit off our misery.
The Republicans are getting to be just as bad as the Democrats at keeping a Government that stays out of the hair of the people, that’s why people are calling themselves Conservatives instead of Republicans… Anyways in recent history, the Democrats haven’t done anything to keep government small. (which was the original idea our fore fathers had for this country. They were smart men.) Instead they keep increasing it, and Obama is as bad or worse than Jimmy Carter was.
Things like Obama printing out a trillion dollars. (Does anyone here really realize how much money a trillion dollars is?) Printing it out means there’s more paper money in our system, and no gold to back it up. Thus inflation. The money you have is no longer worth what it was. Darn….
Things like Senate Leader Nancy Pelosi saying that they aren’t going to raise Taxes because they are actually only getting rid of the Lowered Taxes that Bush accomplished during his administration. So that’s why she has no problem saying, “Nope, we are not going to raise taxes.” even though they are.
Big things like printing out money, and little things like manipulating facts to sound alright make me not trust this government at all. Who is with me?
Money isn’t worth anything anyway. It’s an arbitrary system of value.
Sorry, but the Democrats “proved” in late 2001 that anything that happens on or after September 11th of the year of a new administration is ALWAYS the SOLE fault of the current administration, no matter HOW long ago the groundwork was laid for it.
You can’t go back on that now. Not without admitting that stain on your blue dress isn’t actually ranch dressing.
I don’t think it’s fair, but I have to agree that door does (should) swing both ways.
I see. So, are you saying that 9/11 was Bush’s fault, or that the current economic mess is?
You can’t go back on it now…
OK explain to me how the republicans are stalling health care when the Dems have a majority in Both houses and control the Whitehouse.
Try watching the news. It will take at least 60 votes in the Senate to pass healthcare reform legislation because that is what it would take to stop the Republicans from filibustering, i.e. stalling health care reform.
The Republicans are not stalling healthcare reform (though all the bills so far deal more with screwing up healthcare rather than reforming it.) It only takes 51 votes to pass this legislation with the nuclear option. Read or watch the News. Also there are only 40 Republicans in the Senate, the rest are Democrats or Idependents that vote with the Democrats. Keep drinking the Koolaid Nailin.
Actually, it’s the Blue Dog Dems (conservatives posing as Dems to get elected in a liberal district) that are holding up a majority. Enjoy that Fox Koolaid LMC.
Wow what a stretch. Now you are blaming Republicans for the fact that Democrats cant get their acts together and unified.
It was democratic voters in democratic districts that elected those blue dogs. And whether you personally approve of them or not they are Democrats.
I can call myself a Republican and still be bleeding heart liberal. Watch this: I, The Amazing Rando, am running for a congressional seat as a Republican. And I’m pro-choice, pro-health care reform, and pro-everything liberal you got. Did you see what I did there? I called myself a Republican, but I’m not a Republican! Isn’t that amazing? It’s not a stretch at all. It’s the TRUTH.
Here you go. Read up on it, Doubts, you fückweasel.
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition}
Quoting from the first paragraph of your link:
“Blue Dog candidates such as Heath Shuler and Brad Ellsworth were elected in conservative-leaning districts, ending years of Republican dominance in these areas.”
So the idea that Blue Dogs only aim to steal liberal districts from Democrats is completely false. In fact, quite the opposite is often true. The Democratic party uses Blue Dogs to win red districts.
…without actually winning them. There’s no point to winning a seat for the Democrats if they numbnuts isn’t gonna actually vote Democratic. It only looks good on paper.
Which is all Washington really is. Nobody actually WANTS anything to get accomplished.
Which is my biggest concern over the health care bill. I’m worried that it won’t actually do anything, like most “major reform” out of Washington.
Except that Blue Dog Democrats are supported by other Democrats at election time. And they often vote with Democrats (a lot of them even vote with Dems a majority of the time). And they participate and are respected in the Democratic caucus. And even though they are more moderate, the voters in their states see them as Democrats.
But you’re so right…they are wolves (Republicans) in sheep’s (Democrats) clothing. It’s not remotely possible that they are moderates who lean left. I’m sure my understanding of the political SPECTRUM is wrong. I’m sure we can divide all politicians into Democrats, Republicans, and Republicans who pretend to be Democrats.
Your faith in Blue Dog Democrats’ abilities to deceive their constituencies is a slap in the face to voters. People aren’t stupid. If someone walks, talks, and votes like a Republican, he is a Republican. A moderate who leans left on some things and tends to identify with Democrats more than Republicans can be a Democrat without being a liar.
If I were a Democrat, I would be very wary of disenfranchising Blue Dogs. Alienating the people who are already at risk of working against some of your key liberal agendas might be a bad idea. Just saying.
No………………. people are pretty stupid, not that I disagree with the rest of it.
Unfortunately, most people are so stupid, they vote for the guy with the correct letter after their name (R or D) and don’t bother to look up positions and voting records. They trust that letter to tell them what their candidate stands for. Just saying.
So you want to blame the republicans for blocking a bill that has never made it to the floor?
I wouldn’t call it “reform”. It’s more like, “Millions of new insurance customers”, or “Incredibly shortsighted government solution to an economical problem”.
Uh, there are 60 Democrats (or Independants that side with them) right now in the Senate. Hooked on Math, dude. It works.
Yeah, and some of those Democrats are Blue Dogs (aka conservatives in liberal clothing) and one of the Independents is Lieberman, who stumped for McCain. He also just announced that he’s going to be a fly in the ointment any way he can. So I guess your “Hooked on Math” program isn’t doing it for you. You need SIXTY votes to avoid a filibuster, buster.
Nobody said that there were 60 liberals in the Senate, just Democrats. Leiberman caucuses with the Democrats and is generally counted among Dems when counting the Senate minority. There are also 2 Republican Senators that often vote with the Dems (Snowe and Collins). But I guess that you can only be a Democrat if you bow at the altar of Mao and Marx. Way to represent being the “big tent” party and the “party of tolerance”.
You said replied to a comment from Nailin Pailin:
“Try watching the news. It will take at least 60 votes in the Senate to pass healthcare reform legislation because that is what it would take to stop the Republicans from filibustering, i.e. stalling health care reform.”
with this comment:
“Uh, there are 60 Democrats (or Independants that side with them) right now in the Senate.”
Now, the implication is that CLEARLY, “Democrats have their 60, why are they worried about the Republicans? You’re all stoopid, and I’m Mr Smarty McSmartington!”
But let me reiterate (WITH a cite!) that Lieberman is planning to screw the Dems:
{http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/10/27-7}
And that’s NOT counting the Blue Dog Dems (the aforementioned conservatives in liberal clothing) who are dithering like a mofo.
Fückwit.
That’s funny cause I have health insurance. must be something to do with the crazy idea of getting a job and working for it to earn it. Maybe that’s why they’ve been told they’d get health insurance when hell freezes over!
So as long as you have health care, there’s no problem, eh? In case you hadn’t noticed, not every job provides a health care benefit. And, sometimes people lose their employment through no fault of their own. And speaking of crazy ideas, the U.S. is the only major nation that ties health care to a person’s place of employment. Now that’s crazy!
Yet it is only that way because Dem lead Unions insisted on it.
And the Republicans are noble, selfless people looking to make sure all Americans get the affordable health care they need, right? Oh wait, the Republicans are greedy, pro-business sleazeballs who wouldn’t dare try to stop an industry that milks the American people for billions of dollar a year while fvcking them over. Hell, that’s the Republican way! Who cares if the lower or middle class has health care as long as rich Republicans have it? CLEARLY all those filthy peasants haven’t WORKED HARD ENOUGH because everyone who works hard ends up with a fantastic job with amazing benefits. People like you make me want to throw up on your breakfast cereal.
And that, my friend, is why I have a man crush on you. That’s the kind of stuff I’d say if I could get my rage at the stupidity under control.
It’s kind of liberating. You know, the kind of stuff I’d get flamebroiled for saying on PK.
And now you’re annoying on TWO sites!
SOMEbody has to keep up with you!
well I’m middle class. Loser middle class even. I still have health care. Parents are both retired.
Yeah. SCREW BUSINESSES!!!!! They’re not good for anything!
Crazy that the U.S. is only nation to tie health care to place of employment, maybe. No one is forcing anyone to live here.
lolinternetfights
That statement is so false it’s laughable. You’re telling me if you walk into a doctor’s office today, he/she will refuse to treat you if you don’t have a job? Wrong.
Health care is not tied to employment and never has been. And even if you meant health insurance and are making the same stupid mistake everyone is making right now by equating health insurance and health care, you’re still wrong. Plenty of people without jobs have health insurance.
If you want health care get off your ass and get a job like those of us that do have health care!
Not a political issue but an ethics issue!!!
Sure. All those folks working at fast food restaurants and waiting tables just have the BEST health care, don’t they? Who’s the elitist now?
Well, clearly, Ivan, those who are working at fast food restaurants aren’t working hard enough, because as we all know, if you work hard, you’ll automatically make lots of money and get great benefits. The bootstrap theory NEVER FAILS!!! /strokes out from sarcasm
I have a job, fvckface. I even have insurance, but starting in January it’s going to take up nearly half of my paycheck. Way to be empathetic, you selfish, worthless piece of crap. ESAD.
I came here to see if you told the truth in your last comment at punditkitchen, and indeed, you did!
That’s why I came over too. He wasn’t exaggerating, not even a little bit.
I just came over because I knew it was gonna get all political and stuff. *cheeky grin*
ivan my love! i have to find you here on roflrazzi…? you’ve been avoiding pk.
I’ve been avoiding Justacarolinian and semperfidd. NEVER you, my little kumquat! *sweeps shorty up in a passionate embrace and blows a raspberry on her neck*
*giggles* you said kum——quat.
*facepalm*
*faceslaps Rando*
Oh look Rando! You have you’re own troll! *cooing* and what a cute little sock troll it is! Coochie coo little sock!
aaaaah, i see. i take JAC and semper with a grain of salt. some of what they say is spot on (and JAC gave me free car advice over on el facebook) but usually it’s rather flame inducing.
*giggles at raspberry*
I want to be a part of facebook
*pouts*
if you’re on FB just search for “the pk irregulars 2.0″ then request to join. we’ll confirm that you are who you say you are and then you’re in… and then the shenanigans begin!
If anything, I understated a little. I can’t get away with this stuff on PK.
If we could get rid of the red tape and idiotic laws (not all, just the idiotic, unneeded ones) pushed by both Reps. and Dems., healthcare prices would fall all around because there would be less unnecessary government intervention (not all, just
the excess government interference).
But that’ll never happen as long as short-sighted people argue along party lines instead of forcing politicians to get out of places where they don’t belong.
Start thinking as a private citizen instead of a member of some big political party’s cheering section, people. Both parties make mistakes and screw over the private citizen, people.
you want genuine healthcare reform? ditch all the rich spoiled panderers from both sides and gather a bunch of cooks, warehouse guys, and waiters and ask them what would help them the most. Herds of former lawyers and ceo’s will never make the right decisions, politician is another word for lying bastard imo.
How many lies do you worthless, vile, putrid Democrats have to tell to get off? Seriously, is lying like some sexual thrill for liberals? For once in your pointless lives, put your money where your mouth is- go live in downtown Detroit and reap all the rewards of utopian one party Democratic rule.
Awww, somebody’s butt-hurt. Troll need a hug? You sound like you do.
Wait, what? Detroit is it’s own country now? Damn! I was born there! I wonder if my citizenship is still valid! Talk about confusing! I’d better not run for president. The Birthers will have my ass!
Republicans you mean.
Sorry i had to spell check for you little troll.
I realize you’re ill, but being that partisan does not look good on you. Take a break, let’s go have a drink to calm your nerves.
That’s why I’m doing it over here.
Oh, and ADM, I like you. Which is why I’m telling you not to read anything else I’ve written here. I’ve turned off the self restraint just for the good people of ROFLrazzi.
I have health care and (get this) I PAY FOR IT.
NO ONE OWES YOU A THING!
I have health care and pay for it, too. And, I have no idea if they will suddenly decide if I had a “pre-existing condition” if I suddenly develop something that’ll be expensive to treat.
Have you not been following the Congressional testimony on health care?
I suspect he has not. That statement smacks of a Faux News Koolade drinker. Hey Rando, looks like we need another bootstraps rant down here!
*takes a deep breath* All this Lewis Blackesque ranting is wearing me out.
I also have health care, and it costs so fvcking much that I can’t pay my bills. Seriously, in what evil paradigm is it okay for people to have to pay nearly half their paycheck just for some crappy health insurance with crazy ass deductibles? After my deductions are taken out, I make less than minimum wage. Way less. And no raise this year for anyone in the company, so I won’t make any more money to cover the costs. Seriously, shouldn’t we Americans be looking out for each other? I thought this was the greatest country on earth, but millions of Americans are ready to throw everyone else under the bus because they’ve got this delusion that people who aren’t financially well-off are lazy. The bootstrap theory is as much of a lie as the cake, folks. Hard work is a great thing, but that alone won’t get you ahead in life. Maybe one in ten will get ahead through sheer hard work. How many people who work their asses off don’t have insurance or have crappy, expensive insurance? Millions. Yet nobody on the right seems to give two sh!ts about them. Josh is such a selfish, simplistic douche bag that I find it hard to believe that he’s actually human. Josh, STFUGTFOESADITOP. Thank you.
Dude, the problem is we are riding on the fence! If we went the conservative’s way we would be able to afford it. Currently we have a private deal, but we also have government fingering the medical field, and government just messes things up. That’s why everything is so expensive. Free medical market would be the best system. Certainly not government controlled health care. If I’m old, I don’t want to be denied for life saving healthcare, because its not worth the money with respect to my age. Obama’s health care system will be giving out alot of pain killers instead of problem fixing surgery’s and therapy’s.
But nobody’s advocating government controlled health care. It’s insurance, and it’s an option. No one is going to deny you anything.
And you’ve come to this conclusion based on what you THINK the health care plan will do or based on what the plan says? You don’t really know what it’s going to do, do you? And freeing the medical market would NOT lead to lower prices. It’s very easy to have an oligopoly on things that people need, and using it to keep prices high. They won’t compete. They’ll work together to keep things out of control.
That was more than a rant…that was a religious experience! *applauds wildly*
Dammit, Ivan! Stop. Feeding. My. Ego. I can’t afford to get too full of myself. The results are damaging!
We don’t want him getting as bloated as the defense budget!
hey ohhhhhhh
…and a hell of alot of fun.
Believe it or not I just saw Charlie Sheen logged on at RichDater.
If my sister was dating him, I swear I’d have him “offed” and her fumigated…
Why do the drugmakers get special dispensation to make 4 times the profit that any insurance company makes?
Does it have something to do with the $145 million they spent this year on pro-Obamacare ads?
Here he is folks, the Valedictorian of the Glenn Beck School of Nefarious Questioning!
I’m still wondering…Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a young woman in 1991? I’m not saying he did, but why won’t he just come out and deny it? WHY??
Do you actually want to dispute any of the factual components of what I said, or are you going to continue masturbating?
If you could point out a factual component, I’d give it a stab.
As for your non-factual components, where do you see that special dispensation bit? Cite, please…
Well, the advertisements are a matter of fact. Pretty undisputable, all you have to do is pay attention to the part of the commercial where they mention who’s paying for it. The amount of money is public knowledge.
As are the profit margins of pharmaceutical companies (averaging 16%) versus insurance companies (averaging 3.4%).
It’s also a matter of record that Obama has spoken loudly and clearly the “obscene profits” of the insurance companies, but hasn’t said “BOO” about the drug companies.
It’s also a matter of public record that the most recent healthcare legislation includes a provision that will double the length of time that pharma companies can keep exclusive patents on their drugs, lengthening the time before cheaper generics can be put on the market.
(Although that information was not made readily available in the US, our buddies across the pond found it out for us: The British Medical Journal, BMJ 2009;339:b4088)
“Furthermore, the proposed legislation would permit manufacturers of biological drugs 12 year extensions whenever they made even minor modifications to the original drug, thus giving the manufacturer “evergreen” protection against competition from generic products, the student and consumer groups say.”
Hey, when you’re a research librarian at a University with a Nursing program, and you retain almost everytyhing you read, you learn these things.
OK, so you combined that they already do make 4 times the profit margin of insurance companies (assuming your facts are correct) with the fact that at least one of the bills under discussion (you do know there are about half a dozen of them, right?) to come up with the made up fact that they’re given “special dispensation”, right?
Because otherwise I don’t see “special dispensation” in what you wrote.
That aside, I agree that it’s a shame that even the Democrats are beholden to big business. The Democrats are shameful. They truly are. Unfortunately, they’re the best defense we have against the Republicans, which are even worse.
1. They already make much more money off of us (and healthcare, like Medicaid) than the Insurance companies do.
2. The deal is being cut to give them even more money (to the tune of $71 billion, according to the folks cited in that article) and screw the poor (who could afford genearic meds more easily)
3. This deal appears to be in return for their support.
4. Big Pharma seems to be suddenly immune from Obama’s Criticism, despite #1. (They are still criticized by other Liberals, but apparently only the ones who haven’t realized the factuality of points 1-4.)
Better, worse, I’m the guy whose money is being frittered away by hypocrites.
You see? You WON’T answer my question! You just drone on with a bunch of made up “facts”. *sigh*
Slaggingham: evidence? Links to pertinent portions of the bills, the BMJ article or other primary sources, please, no newsmax or Fakenews articles.
kthxbai
I am unable currently to link to the article.
However, if you’ll check above, you’ll see I provided a bibliographic citation of the British Medical Journal article in question.
The ABSTRACT of said article is in my sig now.
Partial text of abstract follows:
“Medical students and consumer groups in the United States have objected to parts of the proposed healthcare reform bills, which they say will make it more difficult to introduce cheap generic forms of biological drugs (drugs derived biologically rather than chemically).
The American Medical Students Association and the consumer groups Universities Allied for Essential Medicines, Essential Action, and Knowledge Ecology International say that provisions in several Senate and House of Representatives healthcare reform bills will block the introduction of most generic biologicals. Improving the proposed bills could save $71bn (£45bn) in the first decade of health reform, they say.
They are calling on Congress to create a pathway for the production of generic biological drugs.”
(Note, provisions in SEVERAL bills, not just one.)
I am currently searching for a free full text copy of the article. If found, I will update.
New Data:
Is the Huffington Post “Non-Newsmax” enough for you?
{http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/13/internal-memo-confirms-bi_n_258285.html}
A memo obtained by the Huffington Post confirms that the White House and the pharmaceutical lobby secretly agreed to precisely the sort of wide-ranging deal that both parties have been denying over the past week.
Dance little monkey, dance!
My question is, how many of these people commenting on here has a job? Perhaps that’s why these comments are so full of liberal wackos, because all the conservatives are working? (I’m at work btw ^^)
I’m at work.
I also passed all my economics, psychology, and mathematics classes, which kinda explains why I’m not a liberal wacko.
(And passing my english and science classes is why I’m not a Fundie Conservative wacko.)
I noticed you didn’t mention philosophy or ethics in that list…. pity.
Matthew 25:31-46, folks.
Har. I aced Philosophy and Ethics. Not bad for a guy who was born without a conscience.
Anyway I prefer Matt 6’s early chapters. For example…
Unlike the Hypocrites, I do not do and proclaim my alms to be seen by others. What I do and who I take care of is none of your concern.
I’m quite sure I do enough, taking primary care of one other person, for the last 10 years and the forseeable future. If a permanently disabled and formerly abused child isn’t “the least of these,” nobody is.
Also, I don’t believe in your imaginary friend.
He believes in you, though.
“Born without a conscience”… that explains a lot. Moreover, you seem to be proud of it. That explains even more.
It’s my day off. I have a job, as do the other liberal wackos on this thread, jackass. What a conceited piece of crap you are to say something like that. Get back to work.
Awwwww!!!! Is the drive thru Car Wash closed today?
Sock.
Sphincter.
at work huh? and how many millions *maybe even billions, eh?* of dollars are wasted by people wasting time at work? hmmmm
P.S. I believe that was Ivan’s point. It’s hard to prove that something doesn’t exist. I.e., I can’t prove that somewhere there isn’t a study that proves that eating goldfish gives you super-strength, but until you can show me a study that does prove such a thing, it’s pretty much a waste of my time trying to prove that such a study doesn’t exist.
Mmmm… goldfish!
Wow, I stopped going to Pundit Kitchen so I didn’t have to see unfunny captions any more only to find they are expanding everywhere!!
This is for lolz, not lamez
You really came to ROFLRAZZLE to find lolz? I went to PK to get away from this garbage. I started here.
I came here to get away from the frothing-at-the-mouth NeoCommunists but they spilled over here like a backed up toilet…….
Dirty little SOCK.
Irritating sphincter boy.
siiigh. this is just like republicans are… making promises they can’t keep.
And what promises have dems kept? (Except declaring that they would be jackasses when they officially adopted that mascot.)
Didn’t you hear about the smart grid grants that went out yesterday?
{http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091027/us_nm/us_obama_grid_3}
That’s called INFRASTRUCTURE, kids! Jobs, energy use reduction…Promise kept!
Infrastructure is a good long-term investment… but it doesn’t generally create lots of jobs right away.
It is smart, however, and I believe Obama is due credit for that.
OTOH, the administration also cut the existing stimulus Transportation budget… to pay for those hated tax cuts. (Which didn’t amount to much, spread out as they were) Highways and bridges are infrastructure, too.
Well, freedom to choose your own provider is better than the healthcare coverage FROM HELL the government is currently proposing.
Actually, in the Swiss system, you CAN choose your own healthcare provider, and how awesome you want it to bee (the more covered, the more expensive of course). BUT you have to have one. Which is good for the poor people, even if they end up with just minimal coverage, at least they have one.
Really, there isn’t just ONE system of healthcare coverage.
My dad had to pay for his mums stay at a retirement home every month (she lived in the US, he lives in Switzerland). If he hadn’t paid (quite a lot of money), they would’ve just let her to die! THAT is hell. Unbelievable!
He was FROZEN today!