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DRUMMERS
never get ANY of the credit
(The Beatles: John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr)
And they have to look at stuff like this.
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A drummer? Where?
Inside your mom.
that’s what she said
Your face
lars ulrich gets credit, he started metallica
Yes, but that stuff’s hideous, ugly garbage. When you start saying, ‘look how hard this is to play,” you are making awful, awful “music”.
Clearly you don’t know music. I’ll agree that Metallica isn’t that good but how on God’s green earth do you justify your criteria as being “it’s too tough for me to play so it isn’t any good”
No. I’m saying that when you take that approach, you’re focusing on the least important part of music. Rather than write a song with a quality melody and/or interesting aesthetic, bands like Metallica choose to create loud, ugly crap that has a drum part that exists on its own, melody-free vocals and an invisible bassline. I’d rather listen to Beatallica any day. At least the song structures are good. And difficulty isn’t a bad thing, by any means. Virtually every jazz or classical LP I own or have heard is full of music that requires far more expertise than anything Metallica has recorded. Yet it all sounds so effortless. And if you don’t want to read all of that, you can just take my secondary reason: Lars is a giant douchebag.
Lars IS a douchebag. Can’t really argue with that.
JUST SHUT UP DUMBASS
and killed Napster…
Ringo doesn’t get credit because he was the worst singer of the group, not a very good songwriter and such a bad drummer that on 70% of The Beatles songs they had to have a studio drummer come in and record the parts. I’ll give him credit for Octopus’ Garden and the movie Caveman.
May I ask where you got your information? It is one thing to say he wasn’t a good singer, because he never claimed to be one. However, the other Beatles have stated they wanted Ringo from the beginning because he was the best. So I guess really I’m just asking where you heard there was a studio drummer needed to take over for Ringo. I’ve never heard that before.
I’ll tell you exactly where he got his info; he dug it out of his own ass. They didn’t get a studio drummer, and Ringo had quite a nice solo singing career after The Beatles broke up. “You’re Sixteen”, “The No No Song” just to name 2 off the top of my head. Both of those songs charted.
The only 3 songs Ringo didn’t play the drums on was “Love Me Do” which was played by Andy White (George Martin requested him) and on “Dear Prudence” and “Back In The USSR”, Paul McCartney played the drums on those two because Ringo quit a few times during the White Album sessions.
Last time I checked, 3 songs from a few HUNDRED doesn’t equal 70%. Kindly remove your head from your ass before commenting. Thank you.
And let me add that Ringo had near perfect meter without a click-track or a metronome. He was a good, steady drummer. Granted, he wasn’t flashy, but the boys didn’t need flashy. The music stood up by itself.
I’m afraid I have to make a small correction, Ivan. McCartney also played drums on Ballad of John & Yoko. From what I’ve read, only John & Paul are featured on that one. I knew about Back in the USSR & Dear Prudence, but are those the only songs on the White Album that Paul drummed on? Birthday doesn’t really sound like Ringo’s drumming.
I’ve never been much of a fan of Ringo’s singing. I like a few songs between the Beatles and his solo work that he did. “It Don’t Come Easy” comes to mind. I can’t believe that anyone would claim that the Beatles used a studio drummer. Ringo has always been a solid drummer. Not spectacular, but he did a good job for the best band that ever was.
It Don’t Come Easy is one of my favorites though!!!
Oooh, yeah. I actually love that song.
*choke* if u say so
They had another guy come in to drum, not because he sucked, but because the producer guys didn’t like his playing on some songs
I give him credit for an awesome nickname.
Beatles Forever! Long live John, Paul, George and …. er, Bongo….?
LOL!
haha
i remember that
“thats ringo!”
He was way underrated. Not very flashy (on the drums), but you listen and he was always on time and always had taste (with the drum parts).
Well… You see, it’s a drummer’s job to be always on time, so you really can’t give him credit for something he (and every drummer in the world) has to do…
I was wondering if somebody else would realize that.
Yea exept i’ve met a drummer or two that can’t keep a steady beat to save their lives.
I’ve met one who thought he was good, and not only couldn’t keep a beat, but when he missed a drum, went back to try and hit it again, and would probably miss it again!
You are so right. Say, Nick Mason has a pretty “bare bones” style and no one ever bashes his playing. Anyone who criticizes ringo has never paid attention to the likes of JIm Keltner, Hal Blaine or Shelly Manne.
Because often they die off (Led Zep)..but then again we have Animal from the Muppets. He is front and center imo!
Ringo has always kept perfect time and made good decisions for the songs, but there are easily 20-30 million more talented and skilled drummers in the world, including every professional jazz drummer who has ever lived.
Even Ginger Baker has admitted Ringo “did the right thing for the songs”. (Yes, I heard it with my own ears at a drum “clinic”.)
Q: How do you get a drummer off your porch?
A: Pay him for the pizza.
Q: What does it mean when a drummer drools from both sides of his mouth?
A: The stage is level.
Q: What’s the last thing a drummer ever says to his bandmates?
A: Hey, listen to this song I wrote.
Q: What do you call a guitarist that breaks up with his girlfriend?
A: Homeless
Q: What’s the first thing most people hear from a bassist?
A: Welcome to McDonald’s, may I take your order?
Q: How do you get a guitarist to stop playing?
A: Put sheet music in front of him.
Q. And how do you make him cry?
A. Put notes on it…
Something you will never hear on a band tour bus: Wait, go back, we forgot the drummer.
Q: What do you call a guy who always hangs around three musicians?
A: A drummer.
Okay, that was the awesomest series of comments I’ve ever read.
But seriously, with the way the compositions were flying out of these guys, The Beatles could have been John, Paul and any two guys who could play their instruments passably. Though it’s funny: IMO, George’s All Things Must Pass is easily the best solo Beatles album (excluding the Apple Jam disc). Just absolutely gorgeous. Yet I think the rest of his catalog is completely unlistenable, with the exception of a few singles.
What? The songs George wrote were memorable in the beatles. no one could’ve written anything like ‘Here comes the sun’ or ‘Something’ or ‘Taxman’ or ‘Long, Long, Long’ etc.
You don’t like anything from Cloud 9? All Those Years Ago? Cheer Down? I’ll admit, he had a lot of absolute crap during the 70s, but so did all 4 of the Beatles. Some of my favorite Beatles songs are George songs, especially Here Comes the Sun.
My Guitar Gently Weeps…
George was my favorite Beatle before I even knew I had a favorite. “Here Comes the Sun” “Something”, “While My Guitar Gently Weeps”, “Think For Yourself”, “Within You and Without You”, “Love You To” and “I Want to Tell You” were always at the top of my list even before I could pick out which one was which in a picture. Before I could even tell the differences in their voices, even. George was always awesome, John and Paul were just more prolific. I love his solo stuff, too, although his voice does grate occasionally.
As for Ringo, well. . . he’s not a great singer, nor is he a great songwriter, but he’s a heck of a lot better than I’ll ever be. And he was/is a great drummer. It’s not always about showing off. Ringo’s drumming has something in common with George’s guitar playing in that it’s got a very subtle quality to it that’s often more effective overall than trying to be overtly flashy. No, Ringo can’t play like a lot of drummers do. But those drummers probably can’t play like Ringo, either.
Well his real fame was generated when he narrated Thomas the tank engine.
You are automatically my new favourite person.
mine too! I love shining time station! I even still ahve some of the old VCR tapes!
To be fair, Ringo wasn’t the best of drummers. Especially in the beginning (about the time when this pic was taken). He was so bad that they actually had to use a studio drummer for the recording of their first single, “Love me do”.
So… nothing wrong with that pic
Yeah I don’t think he was a particularly challenging drummer. I mean, he had good timing and everything, but he kind of faded into the background. I wonder how he would have played differently with the group if he played a left-handed drum kit instead of playing a right-handed one, as he’s a lefty?
Bull. He was a good drummer, just not flashy. In the beginning, they fought to get Ringo (from Rory Storm & The Hurricanes) as their drummer to replace Pete Best. George Martin made the call to put Andy White on drums for “Love Me Do”.
From Wikipedia;
Martin then decided that as “Love Me Do” was going to be the group’s debut single it needed to be re-recorded as he was unhappy with the original drum sound (Abbey Road’s Ken Townsend also recalls McCartney being dissatisfied with Starr’s timing). Record producers at that time were used to hearing the bass drum “lock in” with the bass guitar as opposed to the much looser R & B feel that was just beginning to emerge, and so professional show band drummers were often used for recordings. Ron Richards, in charge for the 11 September re-recording session, booked Andy White, whom he had used in the past. Whether this solved the problem is unclear though as session engineer Norman Smith was to comment: “It was a real headache trying to get a [good] drum sound, and when you listen to the record now you can hardly hear the drums at all.” George Martin remarked later that he never intended to offend either Best or Starr by employing a session drummer.
I believe they did release Ringo’s version of Love Me Do at some point.
Reminds me of a lil something something..
What do you call girls that follow bands? Groupies.
What do you call guys that follow bands? Drummers.
How many guitarists does it take to change a lightbulb?
None, they just steal someone else’s spotlight.
Fifty. One to screw it in and the rest to say they could do it better, faster and with more feeling.
At least we get the girls…
Ringo was more of a clockwork when it came to drumming.
Where as someone like Keith Moon was like a plane carpet bombing.
Oh by the way.
http://rookery2.worth1000.com/storagev12/960500/960581_686d_625x1000.jpg
Don’t forget that it was Ringo who the girls were crazy about. More recently, I watched Ringo’s all stars and they were quite good.
Phil Collins and Neil Peart would disagree with this. And Peter Gabriel and Steven Tyler? They started as drummers.
And I’m pretty sure Charlie Benante from Anthrax gets as much credit as Scott Ian.
Oh, yeah, let’s not forget Dream Theater’s Mike Portnoy.
So…this ROFLRAZZI entry…not so much.
Dave Grohl was the drummer for Nirvana and is now the singer and rythm guitar(?) for Foo Fighters.
if you think that the only drummers on earth are Ringo Starr and Charlie Watts, then i guess the caption MIGHT be right.
Ahh, but we drummers know: if the band sounds good, WE sound good. Any musician worthy of the name knows that.
can ringo star reaally count as a drummer?
uh, YEAH!!! he was the Beatles’s drummer (for *counts on fingers* just over 7 years)
You know. You suck?
Haha, i like this lol! But my first thought was “yay the beatles! oh, bleh, ringo starr”
I’ll bet any of Today’s drummers couldn’t do as well as Ringo when it came to their live shows. Put today’s drummers behind three guitar players using 30 AMP Vox amplifers, and without using sound boxes and earwigs, in front of 10,000 plus shrieking fans and see if they can keep up. Ringo stated that once the song started, he just hoped he was keeping up, and if you see and hear some of their live work, the answer is a very definite Yes. Very few of today’s drummers could do that.
The Rev from Avenged Sevenfold has written almost every hit the band has ever had, and they have been charted. So to all of you who say drummers can’t write, suck on that.
I think comments like these are the reason why Ringo elicits such ‘aww, poor baby’ feelings from me. Ringo’s way cute, and catches way too much flak.
Because drummers don’t have to worry about notes, just rhythm. Actual musicians have a harder job.
Percussionists I respect. People who only play drum kits- nope.
have you ever heard a good drummer? I don’t mean some crappy pop or alternative (pop by any other name…). Jazz drummers and some ska drummers have very difficult parts.
I know exactly what you mean. people thing I am crazy when i tell them that I am a percussionist, not a drummer. to me a drummer is someone who looks a drumsticks and a drum-set and thinks that by banging on it, he/she automatically creates music. A percussionist is someone that can read sheet music and play exactly what is written on the page with maybe some impov. every so often. That is quite common with jazz music. for solos it will just say improv instead of having a written out solo.
Percussionists can usually play more than just what most people call “the drums”, too. ‘Mallet’ percussion (xylo, vibes, etc.) is like drumming with notes, and often with more than one mallet in each hand.
Although, I think you need to give drummers a little more credit than you do. A drummer doing his/her job makes it much easier for everyone else to do their jobs, as well. If the drummer can be trusted to keep a beat (like Ringo), then the rest of the band don’t have to focus quite as much on counting and knowing where the beat is.
Yeah, perfectly serviceable drummer. Nothing more. He doesn’t deserve any of the credit and that’s it. Not saying others don’t, however.
So this is the thread where we all compete about who knows the Beatles more than the other? Everyone has an opinion and it’s okay for people to think Ringo wasn’t the best drummer. I think the problem was he lacked the charisma that John, Paul and George had. Not saying that’s all that makes a band, but with the Beatles it definitely was a huge factor.
And yet weirdly enough he was the one with the girls all over him, especially in America. I don’t get it, but apparently quite a few people found him more attractive than the others. Give me George any day.
Apparently John Lennon was once asked in an interview ‘Is Ringo the best drummer in the world?’
He replied ‘Ringo isn’t even the best drummer in The Beatles’. But he WAS joking..
I like pie
As a percussionist, I feel that most people see people that play drum-set as under/over-rated sometimes. The problem is that most kids today think that playing drum-set with a band means show off as much as possible. When in reality, bands are looking for people that can stay in the pocket (stay on beat) that can throw in the occasional solo on tempo. You need to be able to play the song in tempo before you can even begin to add the solos to it.
Poor Ringo. <3 The Beatles.
what do you call a guy who hangs around musicians?
….a drummer!!!
heeheeee
Already been said, dude.
RINGO STAAARRRRR
That’s probably because Ringo was the most mediocre drummer possible.
Agreed! Ringo gets shat on by the media because it’s impossible to top the Lennon/McCartney songwriting duo, along with George Harrison as a highly skilled guitar player. However, as a friend of mine puts it, Ringo added balls to the band. Pete Best was OK but Ringo brought balls to the quartet! John and Paul actually wanted him in the band. Prior to the Beatles, Ringo was playing for a lesser known band called Rory Storm and the Hurricanes. Luckily for Ringo, he made the right decision and quit.
Hmm I know a drummer who gets credit… Neil Peart! Hell yes, absolute brilliance there. :3
Neil Peart, Geddy Lee and…. Who was the Blond one again?
(First time the Rock Band’s electric guitarist gets less credit than the drummer and the bass)
=O
I LUV
=O
Beatles!
I agree(:
The beatles are my favorite band (:
Ringo wrote two songs, they recorded both of them, and both of them were wonderful, amongst my Beatles favorites, and that’s saying alot.
Beatles were the greatest, and they will always be.
I just came here to say that Ringo is epic win.
To be fair, the entire band was getting pretty disenfranchised with the recording industry and with the name brand of their namesake by the time the White album was being produced. Plus, drugs. Lots of drugs.
Maybe Ringo was just the first to admit that it was time to stick a fork in it.
how many guitarists does it take to change *one* lightbulb?
none. they just steal someone else’s spotlight, like they did to poor old Ringo. in my opinion Ringo was the best of the band, because when he sang i liked them better than most of their other songs.
So true. I’m a drummer and we never get ANY credit whatsoever.
Just to throw my … whatever the expression is …
I also have to give props to drummers who can drum and sing AT THE SAME TIME. Technically Ringo wasn’t the greatest singer by a long shot, but I think he had a very nice singing voice, even if he couldn’t hit a lot of notes (and a lot of other people think the same!) The only time where I’ve kind of whinged at his drumming/singing combo is when he had to perform “I Wanna Be Your Man” at the Coliseum and his mic sucked. But whenever he performed “Act Naturally” live, it was beautiful. <3
Also, I know others have said it, but there's a reason the other three decided to ditch Best and call up Ringo, who they viewed as the best drummer around. Of course, he was still dressing like a Ted at the time, which probably looked kind of scary. XD /shuts up
The beatles are amazing xD
Love John Lennon!!!!!!!!